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Thursday, February 24, 2005
No more free Straits Times online
ST Interactive is no longer going to be free, not even for three days. Time to get your free news somewhere else. And one less source for the Government to get its views heard.
The internet, with blogs and other sources of free news online, is giving Mainstream Media (MSM) like the New York Times a hard time. If an institution like the NYT is having trouble making the old business model work, what more our own papers?
Tim Oren looks at how "legacy media in general are threatened by audience loss to the Internet and citizens' media". Mark Devlin of Japan Today, who once said "blogs will die out soon", disagrees with Tim.
Joi Ito, on future of the New York Times, says:
Would people pay for the New York Times online? Some. I wouldn't. They have some great stuff and I read the paper version of the IHT and the NYT when I'm offline, like on an airplane, but there are so many free sources of information and ways to get to information online that the incremental value added by the New York Times on my news consumption habits wouldn't be worth the hassle and the price.
Email from ST:
Dear STi Reader,
You are getting this email from the ST Interactive team as you are among the more than 280,000 of our registered users.
We thank you for your interest in the website and would like to inform you about a major change coming to STI in March: After 10 years of giving ST news reports out for free online, STI will begin charging readers to access it.
A subscription will cost S$72 for six months (S$12 a month), or S$120 for a year (S$10 a month). A one-month subscription will cost S$15.
Why are we doing this?
We believe that we have a good and valuable product that users will want to pay for. It's also not a tenable business model to charge for the print edition of the newspaper and not for its online edition.
You will want to know whether you will get anything more, now that you have to pay.
The answer is yes.
You will notice that up till now, you get only three reports from Life! and Sunday Life through the week. If you subscribe, all the showbiz gossip and lifestyle features you see in the print edition of Life will be available online.
The weekly tech magazine Digital Life is available online now but a day after its print edition goes out with the newspaper. If you subscribe, Digital Life and the health magazine Mind Your Body -- now not online -- will become available from 6am on the same day they are distributed with the newspaper. The fashion magazine Urban will also go online, but later this year.
All news reports in the Money section will be available from 6am daily, instead of 6pm.
The last perk is that the archive will grow from the current three-days to seven-days. This means you can search back a week's worth of STI editions.
The above extras are what you will get if you take up a subscription, in addition to what STI currently offers -- ST print edition news, current day breaking news, webspecials and photo features.
To give you a taste of what you will get in the bumped-up STI, the website will be accessible free to registered readers like yourself for two weeks from March 1 till 14.
You have these two weeks to browse and sign up.
Since you are already a registered reader, you will NOT need to fill in your details again. We already have them. You will only need to indicate that you want to take up a subscription and provide your credit card details.
From March 15 onwards, the site will become a subscribers-only website. Your subscription will take effect in April.
STI also has group subscription rates for institutions and companies. The larger the number of users in the group, the deeper the subscription discount. Do call (65) 6388-3838 or email stics@sph.com.sg for these rates.
We hope you will stay with us. STI aims to continue being your link to news on Singapore, the region and the world.
Yours sincerely,
The team at ST Interactive
Singapore Press Holdings Ltd.
Co. Regn. No. 198402868E.
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Comments
call me old-fashioned, but i gimme the tangible newspaper anytime.
Posted by: mystiq | Feb 24, 2005 12:28:17 AM
"call me old-fashioned, but i gimme the tangible newspaper anytime.
Posted by: mystiq | February 24, 2005 12:28 AM"
Same here. Guess nothing beat the good old newspaper. I rather dirty my paper with coffee stains and breadcrumbs in the morning then my keyboard. It's also good read when the big'ol nature calls ya. If you run out of toilet paper there's no need to use your hands ;P
Posted by: h3lix | Feb 24, 2005 12:45:24 AM
They believe they have a good and valuable product that users want to pay for??
I for one, will not want to pay for it. You are right, MB, they would find it tough going with all the free available news online. And some of us already subscribe to the paper version, so there is no need to pay for an online one.
Posted by: Eddy | Feb 24, 2005 12:54:42 AM
Time to look for news elsewhere...
"We believe that we have a good and valuable product that users will want to pay for. It's also not a tenable business model to charge for the print edition of the newspaper and not for its online edition.
You will want to know whether you will get anything more, now that you have to pay.
The answer is yes."
More spelling errors, grammatical mistakes and the dumbing down of the average Singaporean. Thank you very much.
Posted by: terz | Feb 24, 2005 12:55:46 AM
Not the way to go. I'll just stick to my hardcopy edition of the ST. If i need the past articles? i'll just use my nus library e-resources....
Posted by: phelyk | Feb 24, 2005 1:00:40 AM
Think the truly affected will be the overseas folks.
Posted by: gomugomu | Feb 24, 2005 1:09:49 AM
bugmenot.
Posted by: jim | Feb 24, 2005 1:24:05 AM
No more free press? Si bei sian.
Posted by: JY | Feb 24, 2005 1:31:35 AM
i never had the habit of reading ST online, its interface tends to be abit hard to get used to... shall just stick to today online, pdf version ;)
Posted by: jingkai | Feb 24, 2005 1:45:57 AM
Another blood sucking way to get money rolling in...
Posted by: Claris | Feb 24, 2005 1:55:26 AM
Well at least the other credible source for news, channelnewsasia, is still free right?
Posted by: Merv | Feb 24, 2005 2:12:40 AM
7 days even for paid subscriptions? Wow. Well done.
Bugmenot generally doesn't work for sites needing a paid subscription.
Posted by: Agagooga | Feb 24, 2005 2:56:17 AM
We should just boycott ST online...& exercise some consumer power!
Posted by: Bee | Feb 24, 2005 3:55:23 AM
Hope bugmenot works. So those who getting it anyway (foc or otherwise), don't be stingy, share the love hahaha.
Annoying, i can't get my daily dose of complaining singaporeans in the forum section anymore.
Posted by: ivan | Feb 24, 2005 5:53:31 AM
ST's marketing team is surrounded by a reality distortion field. Let's see what they do next in 6 months when nobody signs up and the goon who thought this up has to decide how to explain his failure to senior management.
Posted by: Cowboy Caleb | Feb 24, 2005 7:51:25 AM
The goon will be promoted! Some other innocent chap will lose his/her job - Management Singapore Style
Posted by: Ah-Chan | Feb 24, 2005 8:57:52 AM
Great, now I have to stick to reading the china papers to get news...
Posted by: sputnik | Feb 24, 2005 8:57:57 AM
i'll just have to stick to Sydney Morning Herald instead.. or The New Paper online..
Posted by: witchy | Feb 24, 2005 9:14:21 AM
i like bbc news too. they had pretty good coverage of the tsunami.
Posted by: gracie | Feb 24, 2005 9:28:04 AM
"Reality distortion field" is as close as it gets to describing their sales and marketing department
Posted by: Weiren | Feb 24, 2005 9:28:26 AM
This actually reminds me of a story.
Once upon a time, in the southern province of China, there was this internet provider called Paknet who offered free klassified listing on it's website.
One day, it decided to start charging, and all the advertisers left.
At the end of the day, no one came back even when it was made free again. Afterall, there was Singh-net which offered free online klassified too. =)
Bye bye STI.
Posted by: angie | Feb 24, 2005 9:35:39 AM
yah. STI burn and die! think print edition at least can use for many purposes. but online edition singaporeans will wan to buy meh? i wouldn't lor...
Posted by: taralyn | Feb 24, 2005 9:47:03 AM
My trusty Crystal Ball Version 2.7 predicts that traffic to the STi website will plummet while traffic to the Channelnewsasia and TodayOnline website will increase.
Posted by: Flannery | Feb 24, 2005 9:53:36 AM
Oh well, CNA is still free. And Today. And The New Paper...
I'll just have to manually type out entire articles of interest then.
Posted by: Hai~Ren | Feb 24, 2005 9:55:05 AM
This marks the end of the first episode.
coming up next: return of the bloggers
Posted by: calm one | Feb 24, 2005 9:55:09 AM
This was my reply to them:
Dear STi,
This is a mistake. I'm not going to subscribe, and neither are a majority of your (needlessly-) registered users. About the only reason I read ST is for the forum, to understand what local people feel and want. I do not care for filtered, 'approved' news, fluff gossip, nor inadequate tech info. Extending a pathetic three-day history to seven is also insulting - if self-financed sites can store a huge archive of past data, what more the sixth-largest publicly-listed company in Singapore, especially when it charges a subscription!
The very fact that I'm using the web means that I have access to far more impartial news, from richly-divergent viewpoints. The best filter is my brain, which I fully intend to use. So much for being net-savvy, ST...
Posted by: boxter | Feb 24, 2005 9:55:25 AM
Velly easy.
1) Sg Yahoo and CNA websites... got most of the news in Singapore.
2) Get office to subscribe. Entire office share one copy of ST.
3) Go to National Library, hospitals, clinics to read free ST copy.
4) Online editions of The Age, SMH, Washington Post, NY Times etc for entertainment, health, and epicure articles.
5) TNP for gossips... while it's still free.
Posted by: Eveline How | Feb 24, 2005 10:15:08 AM
With 280,000 users and avg of $12 a head per month, that is a cool 40 mil a year just from subscription fees alone. Wow!!
I think the guy come up with the rate has pea brain.
Posted by: Ninox | Feb 24, 2005 12:21:05 PM
This is the shittiest thing I ever heard coming from the sprry piece of an organisation that prides itself as a national institution with 100 over years of history.
Why, have they become too atas ever since that molass of premier schools have moved closer to them?
Many Singaporeans who are overseas depend on the ST online to keep track with the news back home, even the quitters, what about the whole bunch of us overseas students who surfs around in betwwen and after classes?
How do they ever hope their approved news filter down to the overseas Singaporean if they start charging? Someone in their operations department must have failed his/her economics, 200 000 over registered readers does not = 200 000 over paying subcribers.
Idiots.
Posted by: ted | Feb 24, 2005 12:22:02 PM
should have seen it coming. the registration was just a ploy to see how many readers they actually had, and with a working email address for each person, they can easily send out their emails telling us we need to pay for it. cunning, but ultimately useless. i hope there isin't anyone dumb enough to pay for it while there are still free sources of local news. as an overseas student, i've been a loyal reader for more than 2yrs, and its provided me a valuable link back to singapore. looks like its over.
Posted by: king | Feb 24, 2005 12:37:28 PM
Funny. Why everybody so upset? Free ST is available everywhere... MacDonalds's, Community Centre, friend's place and what nots. Welcome to my world of news reading before ST Online.
ST Online is not a profitable venture without subscription. I subscribe to the print edition just to read the advertisements alone. ST Online simply doesnt have enough advertising, especially the useful ones like mobile phone promotions or shopping sales.
My question to SPH is: What took you so long? I always thought ST Online is free solely because the ISA/MIW wants to know what the silent serfs are reading.
Posted by: ST subscriber | Feb 24, 2005 12:41:17 PM
BTW, 10 Sing dollars a month is pittance. 10 Sing dollar cant even get me two copies of the Guardian in Rome. Cheapskates, pay up or ship out. Muahahahhaaha.
Posted by: ST subscriber | Feb 24, 2005 12:45:05 PM
Oh lastly, Today and The New Paper all belong to SPH. You think SPH so dumb let you have alternative free sources of well organised (though biased) online news? Trust me, even CNA news will go subscription based.
Dont you guys realise what the Mega media merger wasnt just about Channel I and Streats dying? And some people thought I was stupid to sign up for ST after the Media merger. At least I received a free mp3 player. Let's see what you get if you sign up now. Muahahhahahahahaa....
Posted by: ST subscriber | Feb 24, 2005 12:51:25 PM
I beg to differ. There is at least one scenario in which the move by ST to start charging online readers makes sense from the financial viewpoint.
Let's not forget there are two versions of the paper, the PRINT and the ONLINE versions. Content in both versions are almost identical, but the advertisements are not.
Going online does not necessarily increase ST's readership significantly, which means that the ONLINE version may be cannibalizing the PRINT version's readership.
I'd argue that at this point of time, advertising revenue from the PRINT's version would be more profitable, wouldn't you agree? If you agree that PRINT advertisement is more profitable, then by encouraging too much online users ST is eating its own profit. This is because the decrease in readership of the more profitable PRINT version is caused by an increase in readership of the less profitable ONLINE version.
By starting to charge the online readers, ST would protect the profitability their cash cow, which is the PRINT version. True enough, they'd lose some advertising revenue from the ONLINE version; that's why they need your subscription money ($10/mth) to replace that lost revenue.
So wouldn't you say bad as it is to online readers, the move may make sense to ST? They may be quite smart after all.
Posted by: chan | Feb 24, 2005 1:02:32 PM
I just reported their email to me as spam!
Posted by: nickword | Feb 24, 2005 2:40:20 PM
Oh, actually I subscribe to the print as well. Just that my parents would rather read the prints. Lately, I told my dad about the online version. But just as he's getting into it, ST is shutting him off.
*sob* I dunno how to break the news to him.. *sob*
Anyway, I guess I will just go back to prints. Really, no big deal. The papers are at least still good for cushioning my laptop in my bag, or wiping away the coffee stains from the lecture hall tables.
Oops. Coffee not allow in the LT.
Posted by: angie | Feb 24, 2005 2:57:06 PM
bitched about it to them too
can someone start a service to scan in the forums page and post it online? I don't subscribe to print edition as well and I don't intend to.
----------------------bitchy letter to sti------
While its strictly your business model and if I don't like it i can walk (which I will), I thought I'd bring it to your attention.
Many online papers do not charge to view, eg
The Age (Melbourne)
Sydney Morning Herald
Washington Post
NY Times
New Straits Times (Malaysia)
The Star (Malaysia)
International Herald Tribune
Google news
Yahoo News
etc...
unless you figure out how to get paid advertising on the web (without popups and other forms of obstrusiveness), your paid model's success will ultimately be lacklustre..
furthermore, as a "promotion of national interests" and thus a pro pap bias, I think if I have to pay, I can do without.
feel free to forward to your ceo, it appears he is out of touch with the prevailing consumer expectation.
Posted by: loupgarou | Feb 24, 2005 3:17:17 PM
I would stick to reading Mr Brown, real stories from the guy next door's perspective.
I hope it will always be free.
Posted by: d8nnis | Feb 24, 2005 3:17:44 PM
ALL YOUR NEWS
ARE BELONG TO US
-SPH
Posted by: calm one | Feb 24, 2005 4:03:40 PM
NO biggie, I only go online to surf porn.
Posted by: Indian Stallion | Feb 24, 2005 4:31:43 PM
Somebody who subscribed to that fish wrapping paper just to get a free MP 3 player, wow, i wonder who's the cheapskate.
Must have caused the music companies lots of grief too this cheap skate. pfft.
Posted by: ted | Feb 24, 2005 4:44:00 PM
So what the answer for websites who are bleeding? Obviously there just isn't enough advertising?
Posted by: zharl | Feb 24, 2005 4:51:18 PM
I'm so cheapskate I paid for a year worth of ST and Zaobao at with my credit card! Or that I read The Guardian while touring Europe. Or the best part, I chase the ST advertisements because I am chasing mobile phones, Robinson sales, car prices. Yah... I am so cheapskate...so many things need to spend of course have to learn to save a bit.
You useless whiny kids. Nobody owes you a living. When I was a teenager, there was no ST at home, and no ST online. I read ST daily at whichever place I can find a copy of ST. ST online is a legacy of dotcom madness. You should appreciate the fact that the madness lasted this long. You think hosting a website for 200k users no need money? As a SPH shareholder, I'd rather you pay, than I pay.
Muahahahhahhahaha.
Posted by: ST n Zaobao subscriber | Feb 24, 2005 5:50:16 PM
now i make mrbrown my homepage instead of STI,
pick of the best sgp "news" with insights, FREE somemore.
Posted by: fang | Feb 24, 2005 6:39:34 PM
Shareholder big deal ah, must make them give you more freebies or not, how about some breathe freshners? Or that teeth whitening product that Slyvester is endorsing.
Aiyoh, you actually subcribe to zaobao also ah, so patriotic. Eh wait ah, I thought you shareholder very big leh, how come still must pay them? Dunnoe who so clever, paying them to pay yourself.
Posted by: ted | Feb 24, 2005 6:56:03 PM
i commissioned a poll on sammyboy forums: at last count - 94% of people don't want to subscribe to STi. there are 3 out of the 50 polled who say they wanna subscribe - netizens: please hunt them down. permission to exterminate supporters of the 147th press is hereby given...
Posted by: tsoty04 | Feb 24, 2005 7:06:09 PM
stupid dumb sg...cant stand it anymore, as they all want is just simple more money. what suckers!!!!! How can they charge us just becos we want to keep in touch with whatever major news that is happening in Sg? I dun see the BBC, The Times etc. charging us?????
Posted by: ghostrider | Feb 24, 2005 9:47:53 PM
Guess there's really no "free press" in SG after all...
Posted by: Julia | Feb 24, 2005 10:05:01 PM
what is so wrong abt paying just $10 a month? yes, they have been bringing u FREE news for the last TEN years. but have you thought about how unprofitable that is? who's going to pay the team of people behind the site?
the truth is good stuff HAVE to be linked to economic value. cos work actually goes on behind the scenes. they don't just appear on the site without any work.
sure there are other news sources. so if that is your opinion, just go elsewhere and get your news. why bitch about it?
why are Singaporeans all like that? as long as they hear they have to pay, they make a big fuss without pondering about what they're getting.
personally, i think The Straits Times is about the ONLY game in town as far as local news is concerned. other papers/tabloids don't come anywhere near in comparison.
Posted by: exp | Feb 24, 2005 10:05:21 PM
Just to point out: for those who recommend reading the print edition at McDonald's or wherever, those who are overseas don't have that option. Even if you read Yahoo news, Today & whatnot, you're still going to miss something.
I'm wondering if there's some win-win way for those of us who do get the print edition (i.e. don't deprive SPH of their ad profits) & only rely on the online edition when, say, blogging about an article. The Economist, for one, allows its print subscribers to access its website too. Clearly the goal is to cash in on those who have read the ST for free all this while, & people like me who use the website as a convenience will be the collateral damage.
Posted by: Data | Feb 24, 2005 10:50:38 PM
chan is right. for a very short time, they even had straits times classified ads (CATS) online. very convenient for searching, but i'm sure readership of the print version must have plummeted. so they removed that. what they're doing now is the logical extension. they can't afford to entirely pull STI (must have web presence mah).
incidentally, yahoo classifieds seems to have taken over some of their business, in particular i notice used motorcycle ads seem to have migrated to yahoo almost entirely. hardly see any of them in CATS anymore, but yahoo classifieds is very active in that category.
Posted by: ahbeng | Feb 24, 2005 11:08:45 PM
Wow, I didnt know Singapore has a large migrant work force overseas who cant afford to spend ten bucks a month. What can ten bucks buy you in Brisbane? A bus ride? What can ten bucks buy you in Tokyo? A toilet roll? Heck, even Banglas and Filipinos in Singapore are willing to pay more than ten bucks a month to keep in touch with their homeland.
And this same bunch of whining youngsters think poor people are poor cos they are lazy. The same youngsters who would spend well more than ten bucks a DAY buying tabloids, gossip magazines, fast food, gourmet coffee and sms voting, but ten bucks a month is too much to pay for news.
Tsk tsk tsk. The hopeless generation.
Posted by: ST subscriber | Feb 24, 2005 11:37:08 PM
You call news in ST news ah, yah yah, last time when joo young, mata wear shorts right, and there is no colour TV right?
---------------------
Yah yah, as if every student got a credit card like that and even don't have as if every one of them will gag to clamour for a credit card to subscribe that Sucky Times online.
Posted by: ted | Feb 25, 2005 12:50:25 AM
By the way, forgot to add, your lousy analogy hold no water hor. Keeping in touch with family via international calling card is a whole different ball game from reading 'news'.
Tsk, stupid old farts.
Posted by: ted | Feb 25, 2005 12:53:27 AM
Much as I can appreciate their interest in raising their bottom line, I am disgruntled with the ST's move. I'm a Singaporean living abroad, and look to the ST for news about home. But while it keeps me updated with much cherished news about life in Singapore, I am not going to pay good money to subscribe to it. Their level of reporting is keenly wanting. If I can read NY Times for free, I don't see why I have to pay to read ST Times. I simply have to contend with scouring the headlines and getting my news from other websites. Inconvenient, but then it's worth the money I save off subscription. Sigh.
Posted by: Peishan | Feb 25, 2005 1:42:37 AM
Hmmm. it seems we have forgotten that alot of Singaporeans are OVERSEAS STUDENTS. What gomugomu says is right, they will be affected the most. hey, and guess what... many can't afford the luxury of online subscriptions to newspapers. ever thought of that? i agree, we're old farts.
Posted by: mckenzy | Feb 25, 2005 8:26:04 AM
STI does NOT need all 280,000 subscribers to pay before making a profit. If 1% of that figure were to subscribe - 2,800 subscribers - that's $28,000/month into their pockets. If they get lucky and 10% subscribe, that would earn them $280,000! They don't have to please everyone.
Posted by: flossie | Feb 25, 2005 9:43:34 AM
My analogy holds more water than some ted's head has capacity for brain cells (or eyeballs). Newsflash: Banglas can read. There is a place in the REAL WORLD called Serangoon Road. Check out the newspapers there. Not cheap, I might add.
BTW, did you know that in Malay, mata really means "eye"? If you are talking about policemen, it is mata-mata.
ST doesnt need anybody to subscribe at all. The drop in online traffic will reduce the cost of hosting the website already. Plus, people like me will happily subscribe for the print edition now, with or without mp3 player. Minus Princess cinema, can 10 bucks buy you two cinema tickets? (Yah, I am so cheap I even know where to get cheap tix)
Yes, some 10% of ST is basically garment propaganda. But the other 90% of it is either verbatim lifted articles from international news agencies, or straight facts reporting. It will be nice if there is critical analysis without bias. But I have a brain to do that for myself. And then you can read sammyboy's forum for balance.
Exploding coca cola flasks are an entertaining read. But that aint news. Changes in ERP charges or speed limits are news.
And hey, if you talk to an old fart called "Daddy" nicely, he will gladly pay the ten bucks for you. Trust me.
Posted by: ST n Zaobao subscriber | Feb 25, 2005 10:41:19 AM
You can keep your stinking ten dollars and stuff up where the sun don't shine, thank you very much.
Posted by: ted | Feb 25, 2005 1:43:22 PM
My tinking abt this stupid ST paid subscription here at
http://okloh.blogspot.com/2005/02/some-rants-b4-proceeding-to-my-main.html
Posted by: Simon | Feb 25, 2005 3:35:13 PM
ST Subscriber: Your remarks are completely uncalled for. You made personal attacks on Ted, and on our "whiny generation of teenagers", even though no one attacked you personally.
And as much as you go on and on about whiny teenagers, you write like a teenager yourself. At first I thought you were a disgruntled old fart who was probably bitter about not being able to father any children, but later I figured you're probably a 12-year-old (because you sure seem to have the mental capacity of one) who's doing this for a kick.
And who are you to complain about whiny teenagers, really? Have you noticed the number of whiny, biased, generalised, unfounded comments _you_ made? How ironic that you should call us whiny when you yourself are the moron going on and on and on.
And may I point out that yes, some teenagers may be spoilt, soft, and whiny, but there are a good many of them out there slogging their arses out to earn an honest living, which is more than can be said for you (your credit card's probably a supplementary card given to you by your daddy).
Really, I've never met a more uneducated, misinformed, mentally challenged person. I second what Ted said: Take your useless worthless 10 bucks and shove it up your soft flabby ass.
Posted by: Sheena | Feb 26, 2005 2:30:02 AM
Sheena, dont fall for trolls. Just, ignore them. It thrills them to get attention but irritates them when they dont.
Posted by: James Seng | Feb 26, 2005 8:33:05 AM
Don't feed the trolls. :X
Posted by: h3lix | Feb 26, 2005 11:00:11 AM
I always feed the trolls leh, even on my blog. It gives me great pleasure slamming them and negating their statements. And it's always amusing how, after I've done that, they never, ever come back to continue their verbal debate and insult trading with me. So I think trolls may be attention-seekers, but they're also cowards. Blast them enough and they won't come back. Look at what Adri did to stopgays.
Posted by: Sheena | Feb 26, 2005 1:34:53 PM
Wow, I made so many whiny, biased, unfounded, generalised comments? Like which one? Surely Sheena have enough IQ to point one out? Or will she just persist with her verbal diarrhoea?
At least what Ted says has some substance, if a little whiny. Sheena, no substance, pure liquid flow. Just another proof that teenagers nowadays are whiny and intellectually lazy.
Muahahhahaa.
Posted by: ST subscriber | Feb 26, 2005 3:06:32 PM
You know what they say about arguing on the Internet: even if you win...
Posted by: Agagooga | Feb 26, 2005 7:37:48 PM
It's okay, I get my news from MrBrown. Cheers mate! :)
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