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Monday, December 17, 2007

Now folding bikes also cannot ah?

Taking the folding bike to ride the MRTEven in bags?

From the Straits Times forum today (17 December 2007):

Allow folded bikes on buses and trains

MY 15-YEAR-OLD nephew has been an avid BMX stunt cyclist for more than a year.

He meets his friends about three times a week at the Youth Park in Somerset Road.

This is a healthy and exciting sport for youngsters like him and we applaud the efforts by the Ministry of Community Development, Youth & Sports and the National Youth Council to provide a place for extreme sports for bikers and skaters since 2004.

However, there is an important issue regarding transport for these cyclists which I would like the authorities to address.

My nephew has told me that in the past few months, he and his friends have been stopped many times by officers at MRT stations and told not to take their bicycles onto the train.

Please note that these bikes have been dismantled and folded neatly into special BMX bags which the bikers carry on their shoulders. The bags have clear BMX logos to indicate a bicycle inside.

When they explained they were only carrying bicycles to the Youth Park at Somerset, they were asked to leave the MRT station and find another means of transport. They were even threatened with a fine if they continued to take their bikes on the train.

Getting on the bus has also been a problem for these youngsters. Bus drivers have asked them rudely what they were carrying in their big black bags. Some have asked them to leave the bus.

So it seems the only means of public transport for this group of bikers is by taxi.

This does not make sense, as the Youth Park is located in the heart of town in Orchard Road next to Somerset MRT station. In fact, this is what my nephew has done for the past few months, spending a lot of money simply to pursue the sport he loves.

Ng Lai Yien (Ms)


That's not the message from a letter from SMRT dated July 14th 2006:

Why bicycles are not allowed on trains

ST Forum, 14 July 2006

I REFER to the letters, "Allow bikes in last cabin of MRT train" by Nuryusman Ibrahim (ST, June 27), "Provide more MRT trains and let bikes on-board" by Jenson Chen Zhirong (ST Online, June 30), "Allow bikes in last cabin of MRT" by Andy Ab Samad (ST Online, July 5), "Bikes in trains could lead to problems" by Heng Cho Choon (ST Online, July 5) and "Disciplinary action needed on some MRT commuters'' by Paul Chan Poh Hoi (ST Online, July 7).

Currently, only foldable bicycles are allowed on board our trains. Irrespective of a suggested fare charge, standard bicycles, being fairly large, pose problems of space as well as safety, particularly when the train is crowded.

In addition, there are other concerns, such as the transportation of bicycles from the concourse, through the fare gates and up onto the platform, the soiling of station and train premises due to mud, grime or grease from bicycle wheels, as well as the consideration of other commuters.

With regard to the suggestion of having a dedicated train car for bicycles, we would like to share that during peak hours resources are already fully deployed to run trains at a regular frequency to meet demand. Hence, designating special train cars to cater to a specific group of commuters will affect train capacity and schedules.

On train service frequencies during peak hours, these are planned and reviewed after careful consideration of travel demand and the need to optimise train operations and efficiency. Over the last two years, we have increased train service frequencies during peak and off-peak hours for both the East-West and North-South lines. In particular, during peak hours, our train service frequencies range between two and six minutes. This takes into account the need to maintain a minimum distance between trains.

Regarding the perception of congestion, we would like to share that SMRT is ranked among the top five, with one of the lowest densities of passengers on our trains when benchmarked against 15 of the world's top metro operators from major cities. During peak hours, we have an average of four passengers per square metre, as compared to six for metros located in other densely populated cities.

Notwithstanding this, our MRT network is designed to transport a large number of commuters, hence due consideration must be given to the safety and needs of other commuters when discussing the issue of allowing bicycles on trains. As for the issue of eating, drinking and littering in the trains, we take a serious view of commuters who flout the rules in our system and we do deploy staff to be on the lookout.

When our staff conduct random checks and observe passengers eating, drinking or littering in the trains, they will advise them not to do so. Commuters are liable for a fine of up to $500, and up to $5,000 for littering under the Rapid Transit Systems Regulations. Last year, 137 commuters were fined for consuming food or drinks in the SMRT system. From January to June this year, 89 people were fined.

We would like to remind commuters to help keep the SMRT system clean, and not to obstruct the doorways and passageways in the trains by sitting on the floor. As it is not possible for our staff to conduct checks at stations and in trains at all times, commuters are advised to report rule breakers and inconsiderate commuters to our station staff.

We thank the writers for their feedback.

Dawn Low (Ms)
Senior Manager, Corporate Marketing and Communications
SMRT
Corporation Ltd

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All i can say is our MRT stations are Handicap friendly. And wheelchairs not small either. surely a folded bike is no less safe/dangerous or takes up more space than a wheelchair.

Posted by: MrQ | Dec 17, 2007 12:45:10 PM

MRT station handicap friendly.. I remember long long time ago in a galaxy not too faraway, the MRT Empire slams rebellious suggestions of making the stations handicap friendly. Their thought process was that MRT are meant for humans who can walk and not disabled people... I wonder which (Lee)der inspires them so.

Nowadays, MRT stations are a little less dark side. Still lots of improvements to be make. I have been to Europe and was most impressed by the Germans. And yes... they ARE bike-friendly.

Posted by: Turbo | Dec 17, 2007 1:57:32 PM

Obviously if they impose taxes on the bicycles then things will be dramatically different.

Posted by: Lub Duc | Dec 17, 2007 3:16:38 PM

if singapore MRT service are so good and not crowded, y do i still see ppl stranded outside when the train arrives?

Posted by: 4glasswalls | Dec 17, 2007 3:41:06 PM

I wrote to SMRT several years ago, asking it to consider allow bicycles on some cabins. This is a common practice in Germany; bicycles share space with passengers on buses and specific train cabins (with a picture of a bicycle painted on the side).

SMRT gave the same crappy reply (space and safety etc). I then wrote back and ask how SMRT could then allow prams and wheelchairs; afterall both take up a hell lot of space and there's always a danger that an uncontrolled pram may fly onto the tracks.

SMRT didn't even bother to reply.

Posted by: Eveline | Dec 17, 2007 4:31:32 PM

Hmm put d folding bikes into a super large luggage bag and jam up d MRT space ?? Since luggage bags are allowed... I am sure folding bikes are much smaller than those large luggage bag. :)

Posted by: Ash | Dec 17, 2007 6:54:14 PM

bah humbug!

Posted by: kevin.l | Dec 17, 2007 8:05:48 PM

I've got a conspiracy theory!

I think they just want to be as unfriendly as possible to bicycles which are quite the alternative to the transportation services they are monopolizing.

Posted by: Seth | Dec 17, 2007 8:21:19 PM

Don't over-estimate the IQ of the staff. They only know how to follow orders blindly - simple case of storing their brains in their lockers.
NO BICYCLES MEANS NO BICYCLES! Foldable bikes also cannot!

Posted by: David | Dec 17, 2007 9:07:10 PM

官字两个口。。。

Posted by: Ixnay | Dec 17, 2007 11:33:12 PM

frankly speakin they jus spend like 2 para to answer the bike issue and spend the other para on shit crap of stuff we dun need to know.. not solvin any thing.

Posted by: Steven | Dec 17, 2007 11:42:01 PM

not the transport leader fault. stupid ppl working at the station don't know shit, follow orders to a fault. bah humbug.

Posted by: noseblock | Dec 18, 2007 1:58:50 AM

Well... in San Francisco, bicycles are allowed on trains during non-peak hours. It's cost-friendly; no need for new "cabins" for bikes or what not. They just need to put up signs to say when bicycles will be allowed.

Posted by: stormie | Dec 18, 2007 9:10:12 AM

If you pay an extra adult fare for the bicycle maybe things would change? (The bicycle probably takes up about the same space as an adult right?)

It would still be cheaper than taking a cab right?

In Singapore money talks. Have to think the way Singapore thinks. $$$$

Cyclists should offer to pay extra fare for taking the bicycle on then maybe they will dedicate a whole cabin for the bicycle carriers lor.

Posted by: drozbloke | Dec 18, 2007 9:33:55 AM

Taipei’s metro system allows bicycles onboard their train on weekends and public holidays as part of the healthy lifestyle and recreation program. I doubt it will ever happen here in SG.

Posted by: carllim | Dec 18, 2007 10:03:42 AM

Nabeh, buy an adult EZlink pass and hang it over your bicycle lah~!

money talks, bor money walk.

like that also dunno!?

Posted by: bengz | Dec 18, 2007 2:37:05 PM

Maybe I'd say. Allow bikes (non-foldable ones) onto trains only when its non-peak hours. We know the squeeze when its peak hour and being Singaporeans, all are kiasu and want to get home fast. Having a bike in the middle of the cabin is going to take up more space. Same applies to prams also?

And honestly, if they allow prams onto the train, why can't a bicycle that is folded nicely and put into a bag? Worse still. I see people coming back from Sim Lim and having a few CPUs with them. Not only that, how about those people going to the airport? Their luggages? If all these are allowed, I don't see why we cant allow foldable bicycles onto the trains.

Maybe we should just agree with bengz, hang another ez-link card onto your bike. With it, your bicycle can occupy a seat in the train since you paid for it.

Posted by: Jwen | Dec 18, 2007 7:44:43 PM

I wonder what is their problem again..fold able bikes are pretty fine to me...i hope the authorities can address that coz cant expect the young kids to pay for cabs always esp when the cab fare has increase AGAIN.

i always cannot comprehend the mentality of those people

Posted by: Joey | Dec 21, 2007 9:55:00 PM

If MRT allows bikes, then I'll finally be able to get to east coast to cycle on my own bike.... cos i stay in the west and if i cycle to east coast, i'll be too knackered to cycle somemore... cos there's still the trip home... :S

Posted by: Ouch | Dec 23, 2007 12:19:25 PM

dismantle the bike and get your friends to carry them & board the train. 1 of you carry the body, the other carry the wheels and pack the rest in a bag.
If you kena question by the staffs... tell them you are only carrying bicycle body or wheels.

Posted by: strepsils | Dec 26, 2007 1:57:42 PM

All I can sadly say is this: First world status, third world brains.

Clearly, the MOT, MND, MCYS and gahmen linked bodies differ in approaches to encourage the reduction of our carbon footprint and promote healthy lifestyles by imposing unrealistic requirements for folded bike size in SMRTs that are not even benchmarked to world class practices.

Our trains are designed to carry pasengers from the airport to town and vcie versa. Does this mean we now expect to see signs at the airport to advice tourists that they are allowed to carry their luggage only on off peak hours. Prams, wheelchairs and baby trailers should now be disallowed as they protrude and pose possible damage to other passengers and public property.

Ms Dawn Low clearly have no consideration for the handicap, the eco-conscious people and mothers of young on prams. It's such an embarassment to all Singaporeans that we have such thought process guiding public transportation policies.

Posted by: reddotbiz | Dec 29, 2007 9:56:49 PM

foldable bikes only occupy little space what, why so fussy about a foldable bike in the train? it is as if a person is taking a few shopping bag into the train.

Posted by: binbin | Dec 31, 2007 9:38:37 AM

Can anyone with foldable bike confirm the size against a small travel trolley/backpackers luggage? Aren't luggages allowed on mrt too? Or has it been ban too?

Posted by: bikerworld | Jan 10, 2008 4:11:33 PM

Huh? So THAT was the reply.

Posted by: zelda | Jan 15, 2008 1:30:17 AM

hallo? if they allow u to take bike into the train, then more ppl will cycle rite? then who take their cabs?

Posted by: Cloudywind | Jan 15, 2008 5:45:35 PM

now can already..albeit for 6 mths only la https://app-pac.mica.gov.sg/data/vddp/embargo/6260896.htm

Posted by: nnatilyn | Jan 25, 2008 1:59:37 PM

so can we bring folding bicycles into the train during peak hours?

Posted by: chloe | Apr 5, 2008 1:51:45 PM

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